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Logan and Will discuss John Fetterman's scathing critique of the Democratic party, after more Graham Platner abuse allegations emerge.
John Fetterman: John Fetterman says he's had enough of the communist infiltration of the Democratic Party.
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Logan Sekulow: Welcome to Sekulow. We are talking today about John Fetterman. It is, by the way, we're live. July 7th. Just so people know that.
Will: Yeah, I like that. We dress similarly every day. And by similarly, I mean I wear the same clothes every day. So sometimes people, I think, think it's a take, but it's not. We're live right now. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you.
Logan Sekulow: We are talking today about John Fetterman. Look, if you flashback four, five years ago, this is the biggest babyface turn I think that's ever happened in the world of politics.
Will: That's a wrestling term for those who don't know. And today is the 30th anniversary of the nWo, so you know what, for life.
Logan Sekulow: That being said, phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. Fetterman has been on the edge for many years now, specifically since the October 7th attack. I feel like that was kind of the sticking moment for a lot of people, specifically Jewish Americans, who said, our party has gone too far in all of their responses to these attacks and now have really inched themselves towards communism, inched themselves towards kind of crazy town for a lot of the candidates they are running. By the way, not only are they running, but they're winning. And you have a candidate, a more traditional Pennsylvania Democrat like a John Fetterman, saying, this is not the Democratic Party I am used to. This is not where I originally signed up to be. And now we are seeing that not only from him but even from Hollywood as people start to inch themselves and kind of push themselves away from the Democratic Party. That's happening right now. So we're going to talk about that a little bit more. Also, big news in the world of the ACLJ. You're not going to want to miss that. It's going to come up in about our third segment. You're not going to want to again miss that. Rick Grenell is going to be joining us a little bit later on the show. But phone lines, like I said, are open at 1-800-684-3110 as we are celebrating Independence Week still.
Will: And this is specifically what we're talking about today. We're talking about John Fetterman going on and calling out the rest of his party. This largely is in reaction to these new allegations against the candidate for Senate in Maine, Graham Plattner. This is someone who has had a litany of issues, and it seems like these latest round of allegations are the final straw for those in the Democratic Party.
Logan Sekulow: The Nazi tattoos were not enough.
Will: That wasn't the red line for them as it was for many of us, but it has gotten progressively worse and not in the progressive way they would like to claim as their mantle. But what you're seeing now is this pushback and all of a sudden people rescinding their endorsements of this man that has consistently shown that he has a bad past and has not really shown that he has reformed in any way. That's kind of been what the talking points have been all along, is that these were things they keep digging up stuff. Who among us? Cast the first stone. These are literal phrases you're seeing thrown around on social media. They now seem like they have had enough with him. He has suspended all his campaign events as he says, I am reassessing and looking at what the best path forward is. That is typically the type of language you hear before someone suspends their campaign and drops out of the race. They only have less than a week now for him to drop out and figure out what they're going to do on their ballot. Are they going to do something very Kamala Harris in that Maine Senate race? We are going to find out very quickly as the time gets less and less. But we're going to play some of what John Fetterman said last night because it's really important to hear in this day and age.
John Fetterman: Refuse to overlook that, but honestly, I would really call Bernie Sanders to apologize for pushing this kind of predator more than anyone he helped him elect and now apologize to the victims. So I don't know why you want to keep pushing these kinds of people. Maybe he should consider set a few out and stop pushing these kind of communists.
Logan Sekulow: Stop pushing these kind of communists. Do you think John Fetterman is an outlier here or do you think this is where potentially we start to see a reconciliation of even the Democrats where they go we have gone too far? What do you think? I want to hear from you. 1-800-684-3110. What's more likely? That John Fetterman leaves his party like a Tulsi Gabbard did many years ago? Or is this more likely that the Democrats actually refocus when these moments happen? 1-800-684-3110. Let me know. We'll be right back. This week our great nation celebrated its 250th birthday. This is our Independence Week. Freedom is precious, but it is not free. It can never be taken for granted. The ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness—the American dream—can be lost in a generation if we don't fight to secure it. Our liberty was declared 250 years ago. And for more than 35 of those, the ACLJ has been here fighting against those that seek to challenge, undermine, and even strip us of our God-given rights. Freedom must be protected always. And that's why we need you right now. When you go to ACLJ.org/USA, your tax-deductible gift will be doubled to help us preserve our American freedom. But that's not all. The first 100 members to give $250 or more will receive an America 250 cooler bag and a limited edition ACLJ America 250 challenge coin. It's our thank you to you to help celebrate freedom as we fight to protect it for generations to come. Go to ACLJ.org/USA. We've witnessed monumental legal victories from defending the 14th Amendment and protecting our sacred American right to vote, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and standing up for the religious liberty of our kids and seniors. But even with the many historic wins we've achieved, the battle is far from over. The attacks on our constitutionally protected rights persist. Countless unborn babies remain in jeopardy, and across the globe, innocent Christians are being targeted and killed. This fight isn't just the ACLJ's. It's all of ours. It belongs to every American who wants to preserve the values and beliefs on which this nation was founded. None of the victories we've won would have been possible without the unwavering support of ACLJ members and ACLJ champions. It's been an honor to fight for you all these years. Join us in fighting for freedom. Have your donation doubled at ACLJ.org/freedom. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines, like I said, are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. And as we continue the discussion, I did also want to remind you that we are in the middle of our Independence Week. And as of right now during our Independence Week, all donations are doubled at ACLJ.org. And we have a very special opportunity, a special offer, something we've never done here before. Any gift over $250 right now, the first 100 people that do it at ACLJ.org/USA are going to receive an ACLJ challenge coin and an ACLJ cooler bag as just a gift to you. It's branded America 250. It's also branded ACLJ. A lot of you have asked for these kind of items to be available before, and we decided we're going to do it very special. So if you give $250, not only does it effectively become $500, you're going to get a gift from us in return. Again, that challenge coin and that cooler bag—very cool items, but also just something special for you. But donations are open right now. And when you hear about the work of the ACLJ coming up in the next segment, you're going to understand why these donations matter, why when you give, you are giving to causes that are affecting the world stage but also individuals around this country, including children. And you're not going to want to miss this. Again, that'll be in the next segment. But we are still talking about really the push away as you have Graham Plattner likely, I believe, to probably drop out of the race after a lot of allegations. But let's just be honest. It took a very long time. He won very easily after coming with a ton of problems already. It's not like the guy—this is the first thing we've heard—that is a negative or is a shocking moment. It started with the fact, of course, that he had some very interesting background and, of course, had a Nazi tattoo. But we moved on from that. The Democrats moved on from that. They apologized for it, and he won. And now, it feels like the allegations are getting too strong, so much so that even people are asking—not only people are withdrawing their endorsements—they're asking for him to be done.
Will: And here's what's fascinating to me about the politics of the Democratic Party right now. One, it wasn't the Nazi tattoo. It was the allegations after allegations that built and built and built until finally they're like, we can't take it anymore. And there's a deadline. Right. And defeating an incumbent governor who had to drop out because she knew she was going to lose to him. So someone who is a popular politician in the state couldn't defeat this and withdrew from the race, effectively handing the win to him. But when you're hearing people like John Fetterman, who is calling him a communist and saying Bernie Sanders needs to sit this one out—I think a couple of years ago, we would have probably assumed that someone like John Fetterman was on the ideological spectrum within the party closer to Bernie Sanders than to the middle of the party, if there is one anymore. Remember, Bernie Sanders is technically an independent who caucuses with the Democrats. He wouldn't even take the mantle of Democrat because he was so far to the left of their policies. What are you seeing now? Really, he has shaped the party in his image. And you think between him and Mondami, who is now the kingmaker with these House races, it is when you see socialist candidates that are rising. And what would have been the disqualifier for traditional Democrat politics just a few years ago—that label, being a socialist—is now the party's heartbeat. And you're seeing when you hear these things like, oh, they have a Nazi tattoo. They are endorsed by the Democrat socialists. They're going to be a member of the more prestigious member of Congress, the Senate. There's only 100 members, two from each state. What you look at is that it isn't the things that would have been a disqualifier just for decency—a tattoo of a Nazi tattoo. That isn't it. That's not the last straw. It takes a repeated barrage of allegations. And I think that's actually a very dangerous place to be. You need to be judging people based on their policies. The Democrat socialist policies aren't what is normally at home within that party. And now in America, we are innocent until proven guilty. I'm not defending him as a person. I think there is a repeated pattern of behavior we're seeing here from many different people that's being reported out. But once again, this isn't a court of law. This is a court of public opinion. And it took a litany of accusations that got progressively worse. It wasn't when they found out the misogynistic and nasty language and, quite frankly, not becoming of an elected official language he was using on Reddit. It wasn't that. And actually, language that was against what the Democrats say that they're for. No, wasn't that. Wasn't the Nazi tattoo. No. It wasn't violent behavior. It wasn't inappropriate relationships that he was having while married and then through messaging. No, wasn't that. It finally took them to have someone—and even that person who is accusing him says, I was seeing that none of this was really making a dent on his character, and I know things that have happened to me as a victim that I'm going to come forward to the press. But once again, innocent until proven guilty. These are allegations. But it took all of this for Democrats like Rashida Tlaib to finally say just moments ago, I'm rescinding my endorsement of Graham Plattner. It took her still almost 24 hours from all of this to come out for her to make this statement. That is where it is surprising. When someone that used to have to be an independent and then choose to be a part of the party and caucus with the Democrats like Bernie Sanders—when he is now the heart and soul of the party, he is the one directing policy of the up-and-coming members of Congress—that's what's concerning. It's because it no longer looks like even what you could be a part of for anyone who had a remote like, I'm a centrist. This isn't the party of the Clinton era in the '90s or even Barack Obama, who pushed them closer to those type of ideals but still would never have claimed a socialist mantra or a mantle. That is what was lobbied against him.
Logan Sekulow: I think there would be a Fetterman kind of push if you had even someone like a Barack Obama or a pre-presidential Joe Biden, for that matter—people that were at least somewhat sensible people in their time in office. And I'm not talking about President Biden because I think he was being pushed by a lot of people. I'm talking about the pre-presidential run for Joe Biden. I'm talking about Barack Obama. These were not—they were radicals what felt like at the time. George W. Bush, for that matter. I think you would have a lot of people who would feel like they were fans of George W. Bush now on the Democratic side or even on the Republican side that maybe weren't in those moments because the world has changed so dramatically. But you even have Rashida Tlaib putting out a statement saying she's withdrawing the endorsement of Graham Plattner. Specifically, though, saying because we gotta have time to get someone—and I believe the quote exactly was a progressive fighter who'll deliver for people and win back the Senate. So again, saying, sure, the allegations are devastating, we can't stand for that, but we gotta get somebody in here quickly.
Will: Well, and I think once again, when they are using this socialist mantra—and this is that thing we've been pointing out—they are, when they win their primaries, the first thing they're talking about is Free Palestine. And the irony of that, of their even co-opting this anti-Semitic language, this anti-Israel language, is baked into what it means to be a socialist. And we have this clip. It's about a minute and 20 from Mayim Bialik, who was Blossom famously.
Logan Sekulow: Blossom, for the Big Bang Theory, a host of Jeopardy for quite some time, but also a very proud Zionist but a proud liberal also as well. A neuroscientist, a brilliant mind, seems like a very kind person. Someone you're probably not going to agree with a lot of times politically, but has taken a lot of heat recently, of course, social-wise, because of her support of Israel. And she's even having these discussions openly and out loud, maybe to the detriment of her career, in saying things like this. So we have a clip here from a podcast she was on.
Will: Yeah, let's go ahead and play that for everyone to hear just exactly what she's saying.
Mayim Bialik: I don't identify with many of the things that the Democratic Party has chosen to prioritize—not just for the Israel reason or the Jewish reason. I think many of us feel very confused about our identity as Democrats because I think the Democratic Party has really let a lot of us down. And saying that earned me accusations of being a Republican in my own home, right? That's how polarized it got. That if you questioned what's going on in the Democratic Party, all of a sudden there's only one solution: that means you're a Republican. No, I got a lot of other choices in between. The principles of liberalism hold true, no matter what. This notion that support for Israel is in conflict with the Democratic Party is fallacious and it's sinful. There's a lot of moral ineptitude. It is egregious to treat one minority population with such disdain, hatred, disrespect, and intensity, when if any other minority group received this kind of attention, there would be blood in the street. That is the most suspicious aspect of what is going on. And this is what I tell all my children. We don't have to agree on everything, but there's something conspicuously suspicious about the attention being paid to Israel.
Logan Sekulow: Of course, that is focusing on Israel here. That was on the Being Jewish podcast with Jonah Platt. But as she said, take even Israel aside from it. The push away from sort of rational thinking has become grossly understated even right now.
Will: That's right. And even she goes on to talk about you can't even have a policy dispute anymore. And that's the world that she's used to and loves. And we'll be back with more on Sekulow. If you can during our Independence Week support the work—and we're about to tell you something huge in the next segment—go to ACLJ.org today. We've witnessed monumental legal victories from defending the 14th Amendment and protecting our sacred American right to vote, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and standing up for the religious liberty of our kids and seniors. But even with the many historic wins we've achieved, the battle is far from over. The attacks on our constitutionally protected rights persist. Countless unborn babies remain in jeopardy, and across the globe, innocent Christians are being targeted and killed. This fight isn't just the ACLJ's. It's all of ours. It belongs to every American who wants to preserve the values and beliefs on which this nation was founded. None of the victories we've won would have been possible without the unwavering support of ACLJ members and ACLJ champions. It's been an honor to fight for you all these years. Join us in fighting for freedom. Have your donation doubled at ACLJ.org/freedom. This week our great nation celebrated its 250th birthday. This is our Independence Week. Freedom is precious, but it is not free. It can never be taken for granted. The ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness—the American dream—can be lost in a generation if we don't fight to secure it. Our liberty was declared 250 years ago. And for more than 35 of those, the ACLJ has been here fighting against those that seek to challenge, undermine, and even strip us of our God-given rights. Freedom must be protected always. And that's why we need you right now. When you go to ACLJ.org/USA, your tax-deductible gift will be doubled to help us preserve our American freedom. But that's not all. The first 100 members to give $250 or more will receive an America 250 cooler bag and a limited edition ACLJ America 250 challenge coin. It's our thank you to you to help celebrate freedom as we fight to protect it for generations to come. Go to ACLJ.org/USA. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you. I'm going to take some calls actually in this segment. 1-800-684-3110. We've got Rick Grenell joining us in the next half, so I want to make sure we've time to get to all your calls if possible. Let's go to TJ who is calling in Texas on line one. Go ahead, TJ.
TJ: Hi. Yes. My comment is, why could we not try to introduce a piece of legislation similar to the Communist Control Act of 1954 and name it the Socialist Control Act of 2026?
Logan Sekulow: Well, TJ, I simply don't think it would get through at this point. And I don't know if it should. I think we live in an area where people are able to speak their mind and vote how they feel they should. The problem is you have an infiltrated party that is not illegitimately voting for these policies.
Will: Well, and I think here is one of the big problems as well, and something that we at the ACLJ many times are filing suits or briefs in court that would push back against this very kind of thing because when you start to try and add issues to or requirements to being on a ballot that aren't in the Constitution, you start to run into issues. That is something that then can be used against conservatives if these individuals get into power. So I think the best way to defeat that ideology is to speak out, is to be very vocal about our return in the foundation of our founding documents, and to not let things like that get in the way of truth. And that's the problem, though, is when lies are told or when people start to adhere to an ideology, it doesn't mean that the fix is to legislate them away.
Logan Sekulow: I think will be the telltale is whether people like John Fetterman survive in terms of their policies, whether they get pushed to the other side or whether they get pushed out of office. Hopefully you have a reckoning, and that reckoning within the party is to get themselves a little bit back to normal. I would say that probably needed to happen with the Republicans as well. And I think it kind of largely did and is starting to, where you are seeing some of those more fringe people who have, by the way, turned completely on a lot of what we believe, get pushed out or feel like they had to leave. Because look, we can all say that we all went a little crazy it felt like at one point. We were bringing in people who should not have been in office, and I feel like the Democrats have done the same now. And maybe you'll have people like John Fetterman or even celebrities who will start speaking out—people who will start talking about the fact the Democrats—whether it's—look, and I think the fact that you have a Mayim Bialik or a Bill Maher or a Gwyneth Paltrow, for that matter. Gwyneth Paltrow said something very similar, which is her husband is so liberal that he thinks that she's a Republican. And she's out there doing an ad for an Israeli condo development. She did a big promo for it for these high-rises that looked great. And then they started doing hash-tag 'Gwyneth-S-A-T' and saying that she had turned her back on the people in Gaza and everything like that because you can't have any sort of nuanced belief in terms of Israel. And that does seem to be one of those things that does push everyone over the edge a little bit further. So it makes it hit a little closer to home for a John Fetterman. Maybe it hits a little closer to home for a Mayim Bialik or for Gwyneth Paltrow, for that matter, where it feels like, oh, this pushback is not just over some policy discussion, but the policies are radical. Even the policies beyond Israel are radical.
Will: Well, and that's once again to take this to a level of where the ACLJ works. When you see institutions that are getting out of control and it may get overlooked, we've talked for weeks now and actually months when you add in what's happened previously in the year, and years when you talk about the length of representation. We've talked about this student in Washington State that is a middle schooler now. We have represented her since she was in second grade because the school continuously would target her for her faith and her beliefs and shut down her rights. So what—and we told you this—we sent a demand letter on this most recent attack against this student and her First Amendment rights and her parents' rights. And we said if the school doesn't respond appropriately for the third time, we're going to federal court. And our attorneys right now are finishing the lawsuit. It will be this week filed against this school for continuously going after this student's First Amendment rights, her parents' rights, and many other things. I've seen previews of it, folks. And like I said, our attorneys hard at work while they're in court even today on other issues, finishing up this lawsuit that will be filed very, very soon against this school district. Because the world and the country, as we focus on things like Graham Plattner and people running and saying, 'oh, we're socialists now,' it doesn't take away that we still have to fight for individuals. Yes, the policies and all of these things can be dangerous when they shift at the top, but we're talking about small scale as well. And when you support the ACLJ during this Independence Week, you are supporting the independence, the rights of this little girl in Washington State who we've now had to represent. This is the third instance that we have had to represent her through. And she's only a middle schooler. This started when she was in second grade. And you know how much it has cost her parents for legal representation from the ACLJ that they have been able to enjoy? And I say that enjoy, not in a funny way, but since she was in second grade, they've had to pay the ACLJ zero dollars because we do not charge the clients for legal representation. And when we go to federal court against this school district, they also will not be paying for this representation because of you. Because when you stand with the ACLJ, it's not just the ACLJ that stands with this girl and her family. It is every single one of you that's a hero to her, saying, I'm going to stand up today and stand with you because that shouldn't take place in this country. That's how you affect change. You affect change by standing with that little girl and fighting back against what that school has been doing to her since she's in second grade. And we've played nice because they've given some platitudes and some responses that were fine on paper, but we see the pattern and we're not going to let it keep going. And that's why we will be suing them very, very soon. And it's all because of you standing with the ACLJ during this Independence Week.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, and look, we only have a minute and a half left in this first half hour. But we'll be back for a second half hour. We're going to continue to take your calls at 1-800-684-3110. But right now, as we wrap up, as we know some of you do have to get back to work or whatever it may be, maybe you're on your commute, at this moment, I'm going to ask you to support the work of the ACLJ. We are in one of those big matching months right now. It is Independence Week though. And only for this week and only through this direct link, so you gotta listen to me. You go to ACLJ.org—look, we're celebrating the 250th of America. So you go to ACLJ.org/USA or you scan the QR code you see on the screen right now. It'll take you to the direct link. The first 100 people that donate $250 or more are going to get a special gift from us here at the ACLJ. It's a really great collector's coin that says 'Let Freedom Ring.' It's also ACLJ 250 'Voices of Freedom.' Really great challenge coin, something you can keep on your desk, something you can keep at your home on display. It's a nice piece. It's solid, really good. And there's also an ACLJ cooler bag, something you can take with you to the pool, to the barbecue, whatever it may be. I got it right here. This is ACLJ America 250, something you can always keep and remember this very special week as we celebrate the 250th of America. I'm going to ask you to do that today at ACLJ.org/USA or scan the QR code that you see on the screen right now. Again, it's limited to the first 100 people that donate $250 or more. And of course, that $250 becomes $500 because of amazing ACLJ donors ready to match it. So do it right now today at ACLJ.org. This week our great nation celebrated its 250th birthday. This is our Independence Week. Freedom is precious. Freedom must be protected always. That's why we need you right now. When you go to ACLJ.org/USA, your tax-deductible gift will be doubled to help us preserve our American freedom. To help us celebrate freedom as we fight to protect it for generations to come. Go to ACLJ.org/USA today.
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Dr. Jay Alan Sekulow is Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), a legal and educational not-for-profit organization that focuses on constitutional law, the defense of freedoms of speech and religion, and international human rights. He is also Chief Counsel of the European Center for Law and Justice (ECLJ) based in Strasbourg, France, and the Slavic Center for Law and Justice (SCLJ) in Moscow, Russia. The ACLJ also has an affiliate office in Jerusalem, Israel.An accomplished and respected judicial advocate, Sekulow has presented oral argument before the U.S. Supreme Court in twelve cases in defense of constitutional freedoms. Several landmark cases argued by Sekulow before the U.S. Supreme Court have become part of the legal landscape in the area of religious liberty litigation; these cases include Mergens, Lamb's Chapel, McConnell v. FEC, Operation Rescue v. National Organization for Women, and most recently Pleasant Grove City v. Summum.
In 2009, Townhall Magazine named Sekulow to its "Townhall of Fame" and recognized him as "one of the top lawyers for religious freedom in the United States." In 2007, the Chicago Tribune concluded that the ACLJ has "led the way" in Christian legal advocacy. In 2005, TIME Magazine named Sekulow as one of the "25 Most Influential Evangelicals" in America and called the ACLJ "a powerful counterweight" to the ACLU. Business Week said the ACLJ is "the leading advocacy group for religious freedom." Sekulow's work on the issue of judicial nominees, including possible vacancies at the Supreme Court, has received extensive news coverage, including a front-page story in The Wall Street Journal. In addition, The National Law Journal has twice named Sekulow one of the "100 Most Influential Lawyers" in the United States (1994, 1997). He is also among a distinguished group of attorneys known as "The Public Sector 45" named by The American Lawyer (January/February 1997). The magazine said the designation represents "45 young lawyers outside the private sector whose vision and commitment are changing lives."
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